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Fellow Crowdfunders – What’s Holding You Up?


By wjmcneill - Posted on 30 May 2010

Well, according to our poll at Crowdfundingcentral it is all about LAW! So this is the post where will address this topic by infusing some fun and stretch our minds, just a little.

To start off - a quick disclaimer  - we are not lawyers! We certainly have relationships with some, but this post is meant to engender conversation and spark some response from our legal friends and from you. With the volume of innovation occurring in the Crowdfunding space we want to create a directory of qualified Crowdfunding lawyers that can help us (by country and issue). So please send any recommendations and we will share them with the community.

The Problem

The well documented reservations which many securities authorities harbor towards our new Crowdfunding industry (SEC in the USA, FSA in the UK etc) relate to Ponzi type operations foisted on the unsuspecting and unfortunate stretching back since the beginning of financial markets. There are rules and regulations on how organizations can solicit financial investments and more regulations will likely appear after the financial scandals of 2008 (e.g., Madoff). There is a need for Crowdfunding to be regulated, to prevent scams and protect those involved in the programs. These attitudes rightly remain fixed in the mind but stand in the way of 21st century progress.

To help nudge our Crowdfunding movement forward we look at some suggestions (from our readers) on where Crowdfunding may work. Bear in mind that these suggestions are made to engender comments and observations from our Crowdfunding legal friends in all parts of the world; they are not intended to be advice!

Crowdfunding in the USA?

By far the biggest and most sophisticated country supporting angel, VC and financial markets Federal law seems to rule out outright online marketing for investment in return for debt or equity. Crowdfundingcentral wants to know if there any locations that an organization may be able to tap the Power of the Crowd for funding their promising ideas. Is there for instance anywhere in the 52 states where our movement would be considered beneficial or a location we could work from within the law (Native American Territories or the American Virgin Islands)? Let us know your thoughts!

Crowdfunding in Europe

Not as Big as USA but… there are lots of different laws; and attitudes differ greatly. Europe is a definitely a place where we need input from our Crowdfunding legal colleagues in the 27 European member countries. I bet the views here throw up some interesting locations where you may conceivably base your  company in pursuit of financing through a Crowdfunding operation. As you know Trampoline Systems in London has already raised GBP 1m through Crowdfunding but our legal colleagues in other countries may suggest more friendly Crowdfunding locations (e.g., Latvia, Spain, Germany)? Suggestions please!

Multi-country Complexities

We break off at this stage to consider the possibility of a Crowdfunding operation based in Europe raising capital for an operation in USA. Would the USA consider that the money raised in Europe be considered unsuitable for investment in America and also how could they practically restrict anyone in America from investing in an properly constituted company in Europe.

Or VICE VERSA!

Enough for the day from me. Lets get some input from you.

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some examples of crowdfunding in France:
music:
http://www.mymajorcompany.com/

movies
http://www.peopleforcinema.com/

books:
http://www.mymajorcompanybooks.com/

global business:
www.wiseed.fr
a plateform to invest in any innovant start-ups

global projects:
http://www.babeldoor.com
a plateform to fund any projects charity, books, races...

About the law: the main issue in France is that to fund business by people is restricted to a few number of legal statuts like SA (société anonyme) and the amount can't rise above 100 000€
so in many case you have to create one (or more) special company (ad hoc) which has the right legal statut just to fund your real company. So the first company will be an holding of the second one.
It makes quite difficult the crowdfunding but there is some positive points:
In France the government set up a law to promote individual investments : called "loi TEPA", it give you a tax credit of 75% of the amount invested in a setting up company.
so if you pay 750€ of tax and invest 1000€ in a company you will not pay tax these year.
these law increase people interest of investing in start-ups

sorry for my english
I hope it was plain

Yes! I recently started a campaign to encourage the SEC to grant a new regulatory exemption for crowdfunded securities, and have been delighted to see all the interest in it so far. We should have a first draft of some good legal language next week. See:

http://www.indiegogo.com/Change-Crowdfunding-Law

This is just the beginning!

Paul

I am thinking of creating a crowdfunding project based in Hong Kong .Can anyone point me in the right direction for guidance

Michael

Michael,
Take a look at GROWVC - they have started a Crowdfund in Hong Kong and I am sure would be willing to share ideas/ learnings with you.
http://www.growvc.com/main/
I think that you become a member of the fund through subscription rather than become a principal of the fund. Entrepreneurs, investors and “experts” pay a fee - fees are then invested in ventures selected by the investors and money from a venture that reaches exit is distributed to the investors who voted for it. The model is new and of course much risk is apparent, but certainly Asia is a market in need of capital. The Crowd could be a valuable resource for EU and Western financiers to tap into to see new and exciting ventures.

Please let us know your thoughts...

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